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welcome back to the ufo rabbit hole

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podcast i'm your host kelly chase

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in the last episode we talked about how

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the pentagon made the announcement that

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three previously leaked videos of ufos

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filmed by navy pilots were authentic

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and even more stunning they have no idea

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what they are or who they might belong

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to

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so if you're anything like me the only

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thing you want to talk about right now

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is what these things could possibly be

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so let's just dive into it

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the first and most obvious possibility

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is that the things that we're seeing in

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the sky are ours as in they are

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heretofore unknown terrestrial man-made

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technology that has somehow been kept a

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secret from the general public

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so let's entertain this idea

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if these are man-made objects displaying

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technology that has advanced far beyond

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anything that we've ever seen before

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the immediate question becomes

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okay but who exactly is making them

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and considering the insane amount of

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capital that would be needed to develop

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something so far ahead of our current

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understanding

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there can really only be two culprits

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the government whether ours or someone

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else's or private aerospace and defense

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companies

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it's worth noting that there are some

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people out there who think it could be

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some rogue tony stark style billionaire

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genius developing this on their own

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and for some people this person is

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specifically elon musk

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and all i'll say to that is that you

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shouldn't listen to people who think

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that elon musk is a real life tony stark

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and not a real life philip k dick

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villain

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also consider that billionaires sir

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richard branson jeff bezos and elon musk

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the last two of which are currently in a

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race to see who's going to be the

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world's first trillionaire

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have all created aerospace companies

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that are tripping over themselves to

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secure lucrative government contracts

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for tasks as mundane as shooting

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satellites into space

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why would they be wasting their time

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with that if they'd already developed

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paradigm-breaking technology

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it doesn't make a ton of sense

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it's also unlikely that a private

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company would be able to develop this

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kind of technology without the

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government catching on and even if they

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were able to do so

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a company's sole purpose is to generate

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profits for shareholders so even if they

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did have this kind of technology their

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first move would be to turn around and

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try to sell it to the government

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so we can pretty safely roll out private

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companies

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however

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while it's virtually impossible that any

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private individual or enterprise would

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be able to develop this kind of

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technology without the government

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knowing about it it's also true that

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it's unlikely the government would be

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able to develop this kind of technology

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and keep it quiet

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without the assistance of private

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entities

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the us government has a long history of

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outsourcing top-secret projects to

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private companies allowing those

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projects to dodge the oversight they'd

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be subjected to if they were housed

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skunk works division was started in 1943

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in the heat of world war ii when the u.s

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government needed to quickly develop the

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country's first jet fighter to compete

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with the new german jets that were

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appearing in the skies over europe

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four years later they developed the u2

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the very first dedicated spy plane that

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the cia originally tried to pass off as

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but which was actually used to take

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crystal clear photos of the soviet union

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so there is precedence for the us

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defense companies working on projects in

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this sort of hand-in-glove manner and if

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these crafts are in fact the property of

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the us government they were almost

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so that's one possibility

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the other possibility is even more

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disturbing

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could it be one of our adversaries

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could russia or china have developed

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this technology without us knowing about

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largest intelligence failure in u.s

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history and given the scale and power of

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that would be a stunning development to

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say the least

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the other issue with this theory is that

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the earliest of the declassified navy

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videos we discussed in the last episode

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is from the nimitz incident in 2004

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so we have confirmation from the

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pentagon that this phenomenon has been

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going on at least since then

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if our adversaries had this kind of

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almost 20 years ago it begs the question

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what are they waiting for

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looking back at the five observables

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outlined by former a-tip director lou

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elizondo anti-gravity instantaneous

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cloaking hypersonic speed without

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signatures and trans-medium travel

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any one of those things would represent

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an absolute paradigm shift not just in

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weapons defense and intelligence systems

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but in the ways in which we produce and

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use energy the potential and the

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possibilities are sweeping and profound

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meanwhile we've spent the last 20 years

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engaged in both covert and overt wars in

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the middle east and multiple squabbles

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and proxy wars with russia and china and

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others around the globe

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the level of technology displayed by

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these objects is more than sufficient to

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bring the u.s military to heal and seize

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control of the global power structures

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if one of our adversaries was holding

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that kind of trump card why wouldn't

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they play it

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it's also hard to think of a logical

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reason why the pentagon would admit to

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the existence of these crafts and admit

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that they have no idea what they are if

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they thought there was even a sliver of

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a possibility that they could belong to

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another country

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that is just not the kind of

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intelligence that you would ever offer

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it would be dangerous to let the enemy

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know that they caught you flat-footed

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and that you didn't know what you were

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you'd also lose the competitive

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advantage of other countries assuming

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that the technology could possibly be

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we only need to look at the cold war to

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understand how a government would

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approach the threat of another country

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potentially developing weapons and

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technology that are far superior to

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i'm not saying that it's not possible

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that these craft could belong to another

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country but if that's the case this just

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isn't at all how you'd expect the u.s

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government to respond

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so do with that what you will

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so let's assume for a minute that the

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pentagon is lying for some reason and

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they do know what these craft are

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because they belong to us

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what evidence is there that could

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support this theory

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well to start with

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our government has pretty clearly lied

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to us about ufos before

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most people don't realize how much of

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our perception of the ufo phenomenon is

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shaped by some pretty seriously

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revisionist history

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having been raised in a culture and an

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environment where talk of ufos and

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aliens has been consistently responded

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to with ridicule and mockery

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it can be hard to imagine that there was

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a time when this topic was taken

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seriously by the government scientists

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and the public at large but there was

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you've probably heard about the roswell

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incident in 1947 where witnesses claimed

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to have seen a vehicle that can only be

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described as a flying saucer but it

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allegedly crashed landed at a ranch in

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new mexico that very day the u.s

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intelligence office of the 509th

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bombardment group at roswell army

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airfield confirmed to the local evening

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newspaper the roswell daily record that

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they had recovered a quote flying disc

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unquote before changing their story the

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next day to say that they had been

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mistaken and it was actually a crashed

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now the truth of what actually happened

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isn't really important to this

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conversation so i don't want to get

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bogged down there

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all that matters right now is how the

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government responded to this incident

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and to the escalating rash of ufo

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sightings that were happening across the

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country in 1947

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because while outwardly brushing off

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these incidents as being easily

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explainable by known natural phenomena

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internally the us military was taking

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this potential threat very seriously

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in september 1947 just two months after

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the roswell incident general nathan

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twining a former combat fighter pilot

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world war ii commander and the head of

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the united states air material command

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wrote in a now famous letter

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that the ufo phenomenon was quote

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something real and not visionary or

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fictitious end quote

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he described the existence of

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metallic-looking discs that showed

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incredibly advanced capabilities and

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that appeared to be intelligently

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piloted or remotely controlled

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he subsequently recommended the

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formation of what became known as

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project sign to study this phenomenon

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project sign eventually was renamed as

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project grudge and then as project blue

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book in 1952

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while early reports from project sign

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suggested that these uaps could

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potentially be of soviet origin

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by 1952 the multitude of reports that

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project blue book was studying

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many from highly credible witnesses

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including those within the u.s military

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were being routinely dismissed as

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everything from rare atmospheric

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anomalies to mass hysteria to deliberate

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hoaxes in their reports

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however it's clear from now declassified

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documents that while the government was

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reassuring the public it was still

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treating this phenomenon as an active

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in july 1952 in a series of incidents

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over multiple days

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at least 10 glowing uaps were seen by

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countless people in the skies above the

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white house and the u.s capitol building

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at one point for six straight hours and

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were tracked on radar at washington dc's

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national airport

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fighter jets were scrambled but each

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time they got close to the uaps they

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disappeared or took off at speeds that

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made them impossible to chase

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the incident was front page news around

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the globe and even president truman

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demanded answers

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the official explanation which was

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delivered to the american people by u.s

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air force director of intelligence major

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general john samford in the biggest

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press conference since world war ii

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dismissed these incredible events as a

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freak weather phenomena

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nothing to see here

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and yet just three months later the

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cia's assistant director of scientific

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intelligence wrote the following in a

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now declassified secret memo

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quote

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flying saucers pose two elements of

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danger which have national security

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implications the first involves mass

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psychological considerations and the

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second concerns the vulnerability of the

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united states to an air attack

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whether these ufo incidents being

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reported were legitimate or not doesn't

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change the only conclusion that can

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really be drawn here which is that the

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official story that was being fed to the

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public was not at all an accurate

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representation of what was happening

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behind the scenes

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and considering that as was first

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exposed in the 2017 new york times

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article

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programs for studying uaps have

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continued to exist within the pentagon

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up through the present day

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it's nearly impossible to accept the

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idea that the government thought this

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was all just pranksters and swamp gas

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so we do know for a fact that the

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government has a record of being

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dishonest about what it knows and

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doesn't know about uaps

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so is there any evidence that they are

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lying now when they say that they don't

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know what this phenomenon is

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is there any evidence to suggest that

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this could actually be our technology

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well it turns out there is although it's

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extremely circumstantial

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it is compelling enough to be noted

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as i mentioned a little earlier one of

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the most obvious things about developing

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this sort of super advanced technology

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is that it would be expensive

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like really really expensive

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we're talking about the kinds of numbers

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that just break your brain and make it

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hard to really grasp their sheer

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magnitude

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let me put it this way

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the most expensive military plane in the

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world is the northrop grumman b-2 spirit

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it costs 2.1 billion

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and 135 000 an hour to operate

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and that's with technology that we

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understand the cost to develop the kind

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of ridiculously advanced craft that are

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being tracked in our skies and beneath

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our oceans

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would be absolutely astronomical

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potentially into the hundreds of

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billions or even trillions of dollars

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the spending power of the united states

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is mind-boggling but could the

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government really spend and hide

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trillions of dollars without us knowing

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it turns out that they actually do this

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all the time through unsupported

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budgetary adjustments

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the adjustments are done to balance the

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books when there is an expense that

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can't be accounted for with the proper

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documentation

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basically the money was spent but no one

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can find the receipt

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except we aren't talking about minor

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discrepancies here in 2015 alone the us

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army failed to provide adequate support

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for 6.5 trillion in spending

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and between 1998 and 2015 it's estimated

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that 21 trillion in spending from the

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department of defense and the department

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of housing and urban development is

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completely unaccounted for

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the money was spent on something we just

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have no idea what

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now it's important to remember that as

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we discussed in the last episode

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correlation does not equal causation so

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just because trillions of dollars

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disappeared doesn't mean that the us

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spent it on developing the

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paradigm-smashing technological objects

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that are being recorded in our skies

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this is just about assessing what is

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possible so that we can eliminate the

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impossible

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so we've established that the government

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has a track record of lying to the

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american people about this phenomenon

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and with 21 trillion dollars of taxpayer

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money seemingly in the wind they could

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conceivably have had the money to fund a

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massive black budget project like this

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and there's another possibility as well

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which is that the pentagon is actually

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lying about all of this and the

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technology doesn't exist at all

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they faked the videos and the slow crawl

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to disclosure that the ufo community has

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been watching with rapt attention is

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nothing more than an elaborately

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orchestrated psyop

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designed to manufacture a fake alien

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threat in order to

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i don't know something about money and

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the military-industrial complex and

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endless secret wars

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i told you i [\h__\h] hate this theory

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it's not that i don't admit that it

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could have some merit but i can't think

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of anything more bleak or depressing the

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good news is that as you'll see as we

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dig into the history of the united

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states with regard to this phenomenon

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it's at least my personal opinion that

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this has been way too well documented

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for way too long for this to be simply a

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sucky stupid cynical psyop

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so there is hope for us yet

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but the biggest and most obvious

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evidence that this technology could be

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human is that

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although the government is faking an

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alien threat in order to consolidate

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power and get a rubber stamp for

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military spending

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sounds pretty crazy when you say it out

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loud as you'll see it's the least crazy

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theory by far

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don't get me wrong if that's what's

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actually going on it's one of the

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wildest things that's ever happened in

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human history

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but unlike the other options it doesn't

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require us to go back to the drawing

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board on literally everything we know

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about history science and our place in

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the universe

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and based on that fact alone you might

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be thinking

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okay well then why are we even

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considering any other options if this is

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the only explanation that makes sense

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given our current understanding then why

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are we wasting our time on any of this

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other nonsense

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and i hear you on that i really do and

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that was basically my stance on the

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issue when i first started down this

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rabbit hole

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after all i come from a medical family

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and one of the first things that they

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teach new doctors about diagnosing

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illnesses is that when you hear hoof

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beats think horses not zebras

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the extraordinary does happen but very

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very rarely

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that's what makes it extraordinary and

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to justify shredding everything we know

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about the universe and our place in it

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we'll need evidence of something that is

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more than just extraordinary

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so is this a waste of time maybe

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probably

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i'm not gonna lie to you if we're just

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looking at statistical likelihood it

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does not look great

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but

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let's not forget that there have been

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major paradigm shifts throughout human

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history

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that have turned everything on its head

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revelations that forced us to go back to

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the drawing board as a species on all

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that we know to be true

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for example

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dating back to the time of aristotle in

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the 4th century bc

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the prevailing belief was that the

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cosmos which at the time consisted of

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everything that we could see in the sky

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with our naked eye revolved around the

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earth in perfectly circular orbits

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the earth was quite literally the center

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of god's creation it wasn't until almost

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600 years later in the second century

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a.d that the astronomer ptolemy

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recognized through observation that the

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heavenly bodies didn't actually appear

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to move in circular orbits

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they move forward and backward across

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the night sky in ways that shouldn't

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have been possible if their orbits were

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truly circular

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this caused ptolemy to develop his own

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model that showed the celestial bodies

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in more elaborate orbits that accounted

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for their movement in the sky well

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enough that it became the primary

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predictive model of astronomy for the

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next thousand years

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but he was still working with the same

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fundamental and false assumptions that

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the planets moon and sun were orbiting

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the earth in perfectly circular orbits

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and that it was only a matter of

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perspective that made it appear

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otherwise

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so ptolemy was successful in developing

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a model of the cosmos that was accurate

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enough to be predictive

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but the truth of what he was observing

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was still hidden from him and the rest

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of humanity for the next

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1400 years

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now there's a humbling thought

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it wasn't until 1543 that copernicus

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detailed his radical theory of the

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universe in which the earth along with

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all the other planets rotated around the

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sun

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and even then his theory took more than

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a century and the invention of the

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telescope to become widely accepted

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and yet there were still pieces of the

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puzzle missing but those pieces of the

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puzzle were so revolutionary and so far

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beyond our understanding at the time

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that hardly anyone even noticed

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once isaac newton defined the laws of

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motion and gravity in his book

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mathematical principles of natural

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philosophy almost 150 years later in

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1687

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scientists believe that they finally had

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it all figured out and after 210 years

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of feeling smug

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in 1897 the physicist william thompson

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lord kelvin famously concluded there is

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nothing new to be discovered in physics

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now all that remains is more and more

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precise measurement which is super

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awkward for him considering that less

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than 10 years later albert einstein

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began to publish work on his theory of

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relativity

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in what amounts to one of the greatest

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and most profound scientific discoveries

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in human history einstein found that

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newtonian physics depended on the

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assumption that mass time and distance

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are constant regardless of where you

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measure them

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the theory of relativity on the other

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hand

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treats time space and mass as fluid

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things defined by an observer's position

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and frame of reference

570
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all of us on the earth are in a single

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frame of reference but an astronaut in a

572
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fast-moving spaceship would be in a

573
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different frame of reference

574
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if you're measuring something from a

575
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single frame of reference the laws of

576
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classical physics including newton's

577
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laws hold true

578
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,280
but newton's laws can't explain the

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differences in motion mass distance and

580
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time that result when objects are

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observed from two very different frames

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of reference

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for example a clock on a satellite

584
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orbiting the earth at fourteen thousand

585
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kilometers per hour in an orbit that

586
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circles the earth twice per day is

587
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moving much faster than any of the

588
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clocks on earth

589
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because of the theory of relativity we

590
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actually know that the clocks that are

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moving faster tick slower

592
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and if this clock is 20 000 kilometers

593
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,919
above the earth it's experiencing one

594
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quarter of the amount of gravity as the

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clocks on earth

596
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which will actually make it tick faster

597
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the net impact would be that the clock

598
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on the satellite would move 38

599
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microseconds per day faster than the

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clocks on the ground

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if that hurts your brain a little you're

602
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,240
not alone it's a super advanced concept

603
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,919
that requires that you put aside

604
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everything that you think you know about

605
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:15,440
the fabric of your reality

606
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,159
you can't really do anything but marvel

607
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:20,240
at the kind of brain that could look so

608
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far beyond its own observed experience

609
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,640
to understand something so profound

610
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,720
but even einstein could be a victim of

611
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,039
his own assumptions and prejudices

612
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,200
einstein actually spent most of his life

613
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thinking that there was a flaw in his

614
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:36,559
theory of relativity

615
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his math seemed to suggest that the

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universe was expanding and doing so at

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an increasing rate

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but the idea was so outrageous at the

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time that einstein dismissed it and

620
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,679
instead introduced the idea of a

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00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:52,400
cosmological constant to counter what

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the math was showing

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00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,520
it was essentially just a way to fudge

624
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the numbers to make his theory conform

625
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,000
to what he believed must be true

626
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,000
but that all changed when edwin hubble

627
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,760
proved the universe was in fact

628
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expanding at an increasing rate

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einstein called his personal refusal to

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accept what the math was showing him

631
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:11,840
because he didn't think it was possible

632
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,960
the greatest blunder of his career

633
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:16,960
so where i'm going with all of this is

634
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,360
that although they are rare

635
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,200
throughout history there has been a

636
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:23,520
progression of massive paradigm shifts

637
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:25,039
and the way that we view ourselves and

638
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,880
our place in the cosmos

639
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:28,400
and right up until those discoveries

640
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,360
were made and often until long after

641
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,440
people were convinced that the science

642
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,520
of their day had already answered all

643
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:37,679
the questions that could be asked

644
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,280
we shouldn't allow ourselves to

645
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,360
recognize the arrogance of that without

646
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,440
also turning inward and recognizing that

647
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:45,520
arrogance within ourselves

648
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,360
it's easy to look around the world and

649
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,200
at our stunning rate of technological

650
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,280
advancement and believe as lord kelvin

651
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:53,120
did that there's nothing new to be

652
00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,000
discovered only more precise measurement

653
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,559
unfortunately for our egos that's almost

654
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:00,000
certainly not true

655
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:01,840
because while the theory of relativity

656
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,320
briefly unified physics into a mostly

657
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,760
coherent whole

658
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,080
quantum physics blew it apart again and

659
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,600
we still haven't quite figured out how

660
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,520
to clean up that mess

661
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,120
you've probably heard about the famous

662
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:15,440
double slit experiment but here's a

663
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,960
quick refresher in case you don't sit

664
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,559
around thinking about quantum mechanics

665
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,440
all day

666
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,600
so imagine that you have a board with

667
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,919
two vertical slits cut into it

668
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:25,520
if you shine a light at the board the

669
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,200
light waves will go through the slits

670
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:29,120
and as the waves of light overlap and

671
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,960
interfere with each other it will create

672
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,880
a repeating pattern on the wall behind

673
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:35,679
the board called an interference pattern

674
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,000
but as you probably recall light can

675
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,039
also exist as a particle called a photon

676
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,200
and what's crazy is that when scientists

677
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,600
fire a single photon at a time at the

678
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:48,000
two slits it still creates an

679
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,919
interference pattern on the wall

680
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,400
indicating that each photon is somehow

681
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,480
going through both slits

682
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:56,480
meaning that it is behaving like a wave

683
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:58,720
and not like a single particle

684
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:00,799
even weirder is that if scientists then

685
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,279
introduce a sensor to observe each

686
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,679
photon going through the slits

687
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:07,840
then the photon will start to act like a

688
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,480
photon and go through only one slit

689
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:12,960
and as they continue to fire one photon

690
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:15,279
at a time the photons end up in two

691
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,640
straight lines instead of the

692
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:18,400
interference pattern created by light

693
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,760
waves

694
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:21,919
so what this means is that light can

695
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,720
behave like a particle and a wave

696
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,600
at the same time and the mere act of

697
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,600
observing the experiment will force the

698
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,640
light to behave as one or the other now

699
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,640
putting to the side for the time being

700
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,320
that this suggests that consciousness

701
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,159
has an active role in the creation of

702
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,559
our lived reality insert mind-blown

703
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,080
emoji here

704
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,080
this created a major divide in physics

705
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,720
that still hasn't been totally resolved

706
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,919
i'll tell you about it real quick

707
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,200
because who doesn't love a good

708
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,360
old-fashioned physics beef

709
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:53,279
so taking us back to high school physics

710
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:54,720
again real quick

711
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,159
do you remember the schrodinger cat

712
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,600
experiment

713
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,360
for any cat lovers out there of which i

714
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,360
am one i will preface this by saying

715
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,200
that it was a thought experiment and not

716
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:05,600
something that schrodinger actually did

717
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,640
so

718
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,320
in this thought experiment schrodinger

719
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,480
imagined putting a cat in a box with a

720
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,799
sealed vial of cyanide with a small

721
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,720
hammer hanging over the vial

722
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:16,640
the hammer was connected to a geiger

723
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,200
counter which detects radioactivity and

724
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,279
that counter would be near a tiny lump

725
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,679
of slightly radioactive metal the second

726
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:25,679
that the metal released even a tiny bit

727
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,000
of radiation the hammer would smash the

728
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,159
vial and the cat would die

729
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:31,840
schrodinger's experiment would then

730
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:34,000
basically involve putting the cat into

731
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,600
this contraption for a set period of

732
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,760
time and then opening the box to find

733
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,520
out the cat's fate

734
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,440
according to quantum mechanics

735
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:43,360
because the radiation from the lump of

736
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:46,480
metal is composed of subatomic particles

737
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,880
without an observer it both will and

738
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:51,200
will not be emitted while the box is

739
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,159
closed

740
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:54,880
implying that until it's opened the cat

741
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,240
is both dead and alive at the same time

742
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,080
and schrodinger saw that there was a

743
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,919
major issue with this

744
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,360
because it's one thing to say that a

745
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:05,279
photon can go down two different paths

746
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,320
at once

747
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:08,080
and another to say that a cat can be

748
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,799
both alive and dead at the same time

749
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,720
it seemed to him that although quantum

750
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,880
physics could explain how very tiny

751
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,240
objects behave

752
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,640
so well that we've developed lasers led

753
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:20,559
lights and space probes

754
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,640
it was completely at odds with the rest

755
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,200
of our observable experience

756
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:26,880
however most of schrodinger's

757
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:29,039
contemporaries completely dismissed its

758
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,400
concerns

759
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,320
many actually had no issue with the cat

760
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,640
being both alive and dead inside the box

761
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,400
until it was forced into a state of

762
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:38,320
aliveness or deadness once it was

763
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,360
observed

764
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:40,960
despite not being able to explain how

765
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,320
that was possible they just went with it

766
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,400
but most of them including revered

767
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:48,159
physicist niels bohr

768
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:49,200
thought that the question was

769
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,640
meaningless

770
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,640
boers argued in the famous boers

771
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:54,960
einstein debates that the inside of the

772
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,159
box was by definition unobservable and

773
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,000
that only things that can be observed

774
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:01,919
and measured have meaning

775
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,919
so in other words this is the quantum

776
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,080
equivalent of asking if a tree falls in

777
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,480
the forest does it make a sound and the

778
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,080
official answer is

779
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,520
don't worry about it

780
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,200
i don't know about you

781
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,440
but i don't find don't worry about it to

782
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,440
be a compelling or convincing answer to

783
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,679
what is undoubtedly one of the biggest

784
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:21,600
questions in modern physics

785
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,000
but that's exactly where with notable

786
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,000
exceptions most of the scientific

787
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,440
community stands on these issues today

788
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,600
it's the very essence of what it is to

789
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:33,520
be human to want to understand where we

790
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,720
come from and why we're here but we need

791
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:38,559
to be careful that our desire to find

792
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,960
those answers doesn't cause us to say

793
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,880
don't worry about it to the evidence

794
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,159
that doesn't make sense within our

795
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,840
current paradigm

796
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,159
so to bring us back to where we started

797
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,640
this crazy tangent the question we're

798
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:52,480
trying to answer was whether it even

799
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:54,080
makes sense for us to consider

800
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,000
alternative explanations for the ufo

801
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,159
phenomenon besides them being secret

802
00:28:01,909 --> 00:28:00,480
human technology despite the fact that

803
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,919
this is the only explanation that

804
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:03,600
doesn't require us to rip up our science

805
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:05,120
and history books

806
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,240
and for me

807
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,919
the answer is yes

808
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:09,360
and the reason why is that there's

809
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,159
enough pieces of incongruent data that

810
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,320
just don't quite fit together

811
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,080
and for questions this big i don't think

812
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:18,159
we should accept don't worry about it as

813
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:19,679
an answer

814
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,760
however we still need to proceed

815
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,200
cautiously

816
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,679
as carl sagan so wisely said

817
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,440
extraordinary claims require

818
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:29,200
extraordinary evidence

819
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,559
we can't just go ripping up the

820
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,120
textbooks until we're absolutely certain

821
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,440
about what the data is telling us

822
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:37,840
and so we have to accept that we might

823
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,760
never get the answers that we're looking

824
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,720
for

825
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,399
these sorts of quantum leaps and our

826
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,919
understanding about the nature of our

827
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,559
reality move on their own timeline

828
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,720
sometimes like in the last century a lot

829
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,399
happens all at once

830
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,240
but sometimes humanity works on a

831
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,480
problem for hundreds of years before

832
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,840
collecting enough evidence to make a

833
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,840
major breakthrough

834
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,279
right now we're at the point where we

835
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:01,520
have enough information to start to know

836
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,760
which questions to ask but there's no

837
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,600
way for us to know how long it might be

838
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:07,120
before these mysteries reveal their

839
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,640
secrets to us

840
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,640
so are you still in

841
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:13,279
then let's do this so what is the

842
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,640
evidence that the government is telling

843
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:16,399
the truth and that this isn't human

844
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,600
technology

845
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:19,919
well to start although the declassified

846
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:22,799
navy videos were all from the 2000s the

847
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:25,440
ufo phenomenon has been well documented

848
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:28,399
for at least the past 80 years

849
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,679
before the pentagon made its

850
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:31,679
announcement that uaps are real and they

851
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:33,039
don't know what they are

852
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:35,120
we had the luxury of brushing off the

853
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:36,880
thousands upon thousands of ufo

854
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,679
sightings it was a hoax it was swamp gas

855
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:41,919
reflecting off of venus it was a weather

856
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,039
balloon and to be fair a bunch maybe

857
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,039
even the vast majority of those

858
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,320
sightings have rational explanations

859
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,679
but now that the government is saying

860
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,279
that uaps exist

861
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,200
we no longer have the luxury of saying

862
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,799
don't worry about it

863
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,240
i don't know about you

864
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:00,799
but when i got to this point i actually

865
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,480
felt kind of silly

866
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,159
with so much evidence that something

867
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,080
weird was going on in the sky

868
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,240
how did i dismiss it so thoroughly and

869
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,480
without question

870
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,399
because although the government has done

871
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,320
a masterful job of not just denying that

872
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:16,320
the phenomenon exists but making it

873
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,880
taboo for people to even talk about it

874
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,640
i'm shocked at the level of cognitive

875
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:22,559
dissonance that it took to not see

876
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,440
something that seems so obvious now

877
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,120
we've been conditioned into believing

878
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,120
carefully crafted stereotypes about

879
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,760
people who report encountering ufos

880
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:34,240
we assume they're uneducated ignorant

881
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:36,000
and they almost certainly have to have a

882
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,200
screw loose

883
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,279
but there are scores of cases where the

884
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,279
people making these reports are highly

885
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:43,360
credible people who fled from the

886
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,480
spotlight

887
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:46,320
never made a dime off their stories and

888
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:48,320
have in some cases had their lives and

889
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,960
careers destroyed by coming forward

890
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,480
leading one to ask

891
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,480
why would they lie

892
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:56,159
in their other cases where the

893
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,240
credibility of the witnesses themselves

894
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,320
becomes almost irrelevant due to the

895
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:02,640
sheer number of people who saw the same

896
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:04,640
thing at the same time

897
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,240
for example in march 1997 hundreds if

898
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:10,480
not thousands of people reported seeing

899
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,120
an enormous v-shaped craft with five

900
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,440
lights on the bottom flying low over

901
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,840
phoenix arizona with multiple people

902
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,760
recording it from vantage points across

903
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:21,519
the city

904
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:23,360
witnesses have never been satisfied with

905
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,720
the government's explanation that the

906
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:26,640
lights were caused by flares dropped by

907
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,039
the air force during training exercises

908
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:31,519
and continue to search for answers

909
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,279
even the former governor who played a

910
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,360
major role in minimizing and ridiculing

911
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,200
the incident in the press has since come

912
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:39,840
forward to apologize to the witnesses

913
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,919
he now says that he saw the craft as

914
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,320
well and that he could only describe it

915
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,480
as otherworldly

916
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,399
i'd love to talk more about the phoenix

917
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,919
lights and other hard to dismiss

918
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,000
sightings from the last century there

919
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,399
are some crazy ones but i don't want to

920
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,799
get bogged down here so next week i'm

921
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:58,320
going to release a bonus episode where

922
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,919
we'll dive deeper into some of the most

923
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,919
credible sightings in history

924
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:03,760
however if you don't want to wait you

925
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,480
can go to uforable.com and sign up for

926
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,080
the email list and i'll send you that

927
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:10,159
bonus episode before it's released to

928
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,679
the public next week

929
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,240
and as always my patreon subscribers get

930
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,399
every episode and every bonus episode

931
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,320
delivered to them at least 48 hours

932
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,240
before it goes live you can find the

933
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,240
links for both in the show notes so

934
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:24,080
moving on

935
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,679
the thing that makes this whole thing

936
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,760
even stickier is that although it's

937
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,679
generally accepted that the first report

938
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:31,760
of a flying saucer was by a pilot named

939
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,559
kenneth arnold in 1947 who made his

940
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,159
sighting while searching for a lost

941
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:38,080
plane near mount rainier

942
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,240
strange things have been seen in the sky

943
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,799
for a long time before that and though

944
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,279
pre-industrial pre-flight people may not

945
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:46,799
have had the same words and frame of

946
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,399
reference as their 20th century

947
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:50,720
counterparts what they described seeing

948
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:53,120
in the air sounds very similar to modern

949
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,120
day uap sightings

950
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,760
in his groundbreaking 1969 work passport

951
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,120
to magonia

952
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:01,919
venerated ufologist jacques filet

953
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,159
presented 923

954
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,159
eyewitness accounts of strange objects

955
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,000
and aerial phenomena from around the

956
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:10,720
globe spanning the 100 years between

957
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,159
1868 and 1968.

958
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:16,000
here's just a few

959
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,600
in july 1968 in chile he reports a

960
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:21,760
strange aerial construction bearing

961
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:24,320
lights and making engine noises flew low

962
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:25,679
over this town

963
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,600
local people also described it as a

964
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,840
giant bird covered with large scales

965
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:32,559
producing a metallic noise

966
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:35,840
in 1877 in great britain it was reported

967
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,640
that

968
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,039
a strange being dressed in tight-fitting

969
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,600
clothes and a shining helmet soared over

970
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:43,519
the heads of two centuries who fired

971
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:45,919
without result

972
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,320
and in april 1897 in everest kansas

973
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:52,880
the whole town saw an object fly under

974
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,360
the cloud ceiling it came down slowly

975
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,960
then flew away very fast to the

976
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,159
southeast

977
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,240
when directly over the town it swept the

978
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,480
ground with its powerful light

979
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,320
it was seen to rise up at a fantastic

980
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,399
speed until barely discernible

981
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,320
then come down again and sweep low over

982
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,399
the witnesses at one point it remained

983
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,320
stationary for five minutes at the edge

984
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,720
of a low cloud which it illuminated

985
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,639
all could clearly see the silhouette of

986
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,240
the craft

987
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,520
and these are just three of over 900

988
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:23,119
recorded sightings

989
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:25,200
many of them like these three accounts

990
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,159
were reported years if not decades

991
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,919
before the wright brothers first

992
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,800
achieved human flight in 1903

993
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:34,399
and the uncomfortable reality is that

994
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,159
strange things have been reported in the

995
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,800
sky for centuries and perhaps even

996
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,919
millennia

997
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,599
even appearing in the earliest written

998
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:44,159
records and religious texts that we have

999
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,879
it's impossible to know exactly what if

1000
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:48,639
anything people were actually seeing

1001
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:50,800
back then or how many of these cases

1002
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,119
were a genuine case of mistaken identity

1003
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:55,599
or mass hysteria or a hoax

1004
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:56,800
and yet

1005
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,960
you quickly realized that any effort to

1006
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,960
draw a line in the sand and declare that

1007
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,280
any particular incident or time period

1008
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,200
marks the definitive beginning of the

1009
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:07,760
ufo phenomenon would be entirely

1010
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,040
arbitrary

1011
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,359
whether real or imagined this is an

1012
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,880
experience that people have been having

1013
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,359
for a very long time

1014
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:17,359
and that's a major problem for the

1015
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:20,240
argument that ufos are human technology

1016
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,680
even if we take what is the most

1017
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,680
conservative set of assumptions and say

1018
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,320
that the 2004 nimitz incident from the

1019
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,480
fleur video was the first ever

1020
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,560
legitimate ufo encounter

1021
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,560
the idea that anyone anywhere on the

1022
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,560
planet had that technology almost 20

1023
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,640
years ago stretches the limits of

1024
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,000
credulity

1025
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:40,000
and to think that we potentially had it

1026
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,760
right after world war ii

1027
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:43,839
when ufos first started to dominate the

1028
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:45,520
public consciousness seems too

1029
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,560
far-fetched to even really be considered

1030
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:50,400
and just this month former director of

1031
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,880
atip lou elizondo said in an interview

1032
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,720
with british gq

1033
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:57,040
i have in my possession official u.s

1034
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,200
government documentation that describes

1035
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,440
the exact same vehicle that we now call

1036
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,839
the tic tac seen by the nimitz pilots in

1037
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,200
2004

1038
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:07,920
being described in the early 1950s and

1039
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,480
early 1960s and performing in ways that

1040
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,200
frankly can outperform anything we have

1041
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,640
in our inventory

1042
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,240
for some country to have developed

1043
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:18,560
hypersonic technology instantaneous

1044
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:21,359
acceleration and basically transmedial

1045
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,400
travel in the early 1950s is absolutely

1046
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,880
preposterous end quote

1047
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:28,960
because to be clear

1048
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,160
what we're talking about with the

1049
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,560
technological capabilities shown isn't

1050
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:34,480
just a quantum leap forward

1051
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,640
it shatters every rule and every

1052
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,640
paradigm we have

1053
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:40,240
and even if some of that craft that

1054
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:43,040
we're seeing is human technology it begs

1055
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,560
the question

1056
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:46,240
where did we get it

1057
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:47,839
where did it come from

1058
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,400
because if it is us the timeline of all

1059
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:52,480
of this makes it very hard to believe

1060
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:53,920
that we made these breakthroughs

1061
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,320
entirely on our own

1062
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,079
and there's also the question of why the

1063
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,839
government would still be investigating

1064
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,400
uaps if we knew what they were

1065
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,760
we'll get into this more in future

1066
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,160
episodes but atip the secret government

1067
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,320
agency that investigates uaps that was

1068
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,240
exposed in the new york times and from

1069
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,920
which former director lou elizondo

1070
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,000
resigned in protest that same year

1071
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:16,400
is not the first government agency to

1072
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,000
study this phenomenon

1073
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,920
this has been studied by multiple

1074
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:21,839
government agencies at various levels of

1075
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,520
secrecy since at least december 1947.

1076
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,680
so why do all of this if we already know

1077
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:29,119
what they are

1078
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:32,079
and for the everything is a psyop crowd

1079
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,320
the most likely answer is that you

1080
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,960
guessed it it's a psyop

1081
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:38,720
they say we can't trust anything that

1082
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:40,400
the government or anyone associated with

1083
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,119
the government tells us about ufos

1084
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:45,119
they point to louis elizondo currently

1085
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,320
the most prominent face of the

1086
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,400
disclosure movement and his background

1087
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,480
in counterintelligence and the fact that

1088
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,800
despite resigning he still maintains his

1089
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:54,720
clearance as proof that whatever the

1090
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:57,200
government is telling us about uaps is

1091
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:58,960
being done to manipulate us to some

1092
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:02,000
nefarious end probably war

1093
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,800
and

1094
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,040
like i said i hate this theory i hate

1095
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,640
everything about it

1096
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,880
but i'd have to be naive not to consider

1097
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,200
it and i have

1098
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,800
deeply

1099
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:15,440
but for me when i listen to lou elizondo

1100
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,760
speak i don't hear someone pushing a

1101
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,680
hateful fearful agenda

1102
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,359
he's not making the case that we should

1103
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,359
fight these things in fact he makes it

1104
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:25,280
clear that we're entirely outmatched by

1105
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,280
this technology to an extent that makes

1106
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:29,440
the idea of fighting with them almost

1107
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:30,720
meaningless

1108
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,160
how could we fight something that can

1109
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:35,440
travel 80 000 feet in under a second

1110
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:38,079
in fact lou actually seems to be saying

1111
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,880
something deeper and much more profound

1112
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,160
something that isn't just about the

1113
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:44,240
origin of this phenomenon but about the

1114
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,240
origin of our species and the very

1115
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:48,400
nature of reality

1116
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,240
and what has become one of his most

1117
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,480
quoted and most often referenced answers

1118
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:55,119
in an interview when lou was asked how

1119
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:56,640
he thought people would feel if they

1120
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,960
knew what he knows he said

1121
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,400
somber

1122
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,400
he later explained his answer further in

1123
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,880
an interview with kurt ginmungle on his

1124
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:06,800
phenomenal youtube channel theory of

1125
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:09,280
everything by saying

1126
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,310
imagine everything you've been taught

1127
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:17,119
whether it's through sunday school or

1128
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,160
through

1129
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,720
regular formal education in school or

1130
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,400
what our political leaders have told us

1131
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,079
and yes you may be our mothers and

1132
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:26,000
fathers around the dinner table have

1133
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:29,359
told us or maybe at bedtime about

1134
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:33,040
what we are our background in our past

1135
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,000
what if

1136
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,480
all of that turned out to be

1137
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,880
not entirely accurate

1138
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:40,240
in fact

1139
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,599
the very history of of our species

1140
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:45,520
the meaning what it means to be a human

1141
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:48,079
being and our place in this universe

1142
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,920
what if all that is now

1143
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,359
in question

1144
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,880
what if it turns out that a lot of the

1145
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,640
things that we

1146
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:57,119
thought wrong way

1147
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:58,640
are we prepared

1148
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:00,640
to have that honest question with

1149
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,680
ourselves are we prepared to

1150
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,520
to recognize that we're not at the top

1151
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,880
of the food chain

1152
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:09,200
and listen to his answer that he gave in

1153
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,079
an interview on that ufo podcast when

1154
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:14,079
asked about research that he was doing

1155
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,920
with the lakota people

1156
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:17,680
can you talk on the work you were doing

1157
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,200
with or you're going to be doing with

1158
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,960
the lakota tribe there seems to be a

1159
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:22,319
strong connection between native

1160
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,870
well damn once again you're asking great

1161
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,119
questions and i'll answer that one yes

1162
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,920
we are absolutely engaged in that effort

1163
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:36,160
let's not forget that the first nations

1164
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,160
of saskatchewan and

1165
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:40,560
most indigenous peoples have oral

1166
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:43,119
traditions that go back in some cases

1167
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:44,720
thousands and thousands of years

1168
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:47,760
pre-history from our perspective and to

1169
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:50,480
very much the same that an f-18 pilot is

1170
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:53,599
a trained observer when flying a combat

1171
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,480
mission

1172
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:56,720
indigenous people are trained observers

1173
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,920
when it comes to their land and

1174
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,000
although it might come from a slightly

1175
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,160
different paradigm that we're used to in

1176
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,680
the western world

1177
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,920
indigenous people have a profound sense

1178
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,359
of history

1179
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,760
and it is that history

1180
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,200
that we are

1181
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:15,599
very curious to see if we can see some

1182
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,599
of the same patterns

1183
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,359
that we see in the current effort

1184
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,960
regarding agent but even more

1185
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,640
importantly than that

1186
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:24,800
i think i think all indigenous people

1187
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:27,760
have have lessons that we can learn from

1188
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,079
i think we you know we live in a very

1189
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,920
materialistic world

1190
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:33,760
that is heavily dependent upon

1191
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:34,960
technology

1192
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,319
and indigenous people for for millennia

1193
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,880
have gotten along just fine without it

1194
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,640
and their sense of government and their

1195
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,319
sense of organization their sense of

1196
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,520
fairness

1197
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,400
is truly profound and i think

1198
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,400
if we can

1199
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,880
show the world just a little bit of that

1200
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:54,319
beauty

1201
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,920
we might be better off we might be

1202
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:58,000
better off as a civilization we might be

1203
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:00,560
better off as a race as a species

1204
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,240
i'm not going to go into detail but when

1205
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:04,960
i when i had the the distinct uh honor

1206
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:07,680
of going up and meeting the chief and

1207
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:10,480
the elders of of the bands the lakota

1208
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,760
dakota band

1209
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:13,599
it was a it was a profound experience

1210
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:16,720
for me it was it was an epiphany i i

1211
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,599
learned

1212
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,119
so much

1213
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,280
in that brief time i had with them and

1214
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:23,760
again i don't want to share the specific

1215
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,000
instances because i would like to

1216
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,079
eventually provide that in a much more

1217
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,200
professional manner for everybody to see

1218
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:34,560
but it was it was nothing less

1219
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,440
than

1220
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:36,960
soul shaking

1221
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,560
and i mean that sincerely i i realize

1222
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,599
there's a whole other aspect to humanity

1223
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:45,040
that we have seen

1224
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:46,319
to forget

1225
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:49,280
and indigenous people have despite the

1226
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:51,200
challenges they have faced

1227
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,480
over the years whether it's disease or

1228
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,319
being moved against their will to

1229
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,040
reservations and the hardships and the

1230
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:01,280
discrimination that they have faced over

1231
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:02,560
and over again

1232
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:05,839
somehow they were able to maintain

1233
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:09,040
their dignity and and their humanity

1234
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,400
and

1235
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,480
for me it was a

1236
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,599
it was an understanding of resilience

1237
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,839
and that there is an indelible part of

1238
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:19,440
the human being whether you call it the

1239
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,760
soul or the id or the chi or whatever

1240
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:23,760
whatever non-du jour you want to give it

1241
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:26,800
there's an element beyond the biomass of

1242
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,119
a human body and beyond the electrical

1243
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:30,720
synapses of the human brain and the

1244
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:33,440
intellect that makes each and every one

1245
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,560
of us distinct and

1246
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:38,960
and i learned that there's great beauty

1247
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,359
in that and coming from up from a hard

1248
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,680
investigator who has been always just a

1249
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:45,839
fax ma'am kind of guy you know there's

1250
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:48,319
another aspect to being human here

1251
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,119
that

1252
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,119
not just me but maybe maybe other people

1253
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:53,040
have forgotten as well

1254
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,880
do you see what i mean

1255
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,960
honestly if it wasn't for lou i don't

1256
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,560
know how far down this rabbit hole i

1257
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,760
would have gone

1258
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,000
but the former director of a shadowy

1259
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,400
government agency whose core mission was

1260
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:06,560
to investigate uaps

1261
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:09,200
quit in protest in order to pursue

1262
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:12,720
disclosure and this is what he is saying

1263
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,280
what could it all possibly mean

1264
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,000
i don't know about you but i'm hooked

1265
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:20,240
wherever this train is going i'm along

1266
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:21,440
for the ride

1267
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,599
and i hope you're coming with me

1268
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,839
because in the next episode we're going

1269
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:27,440
to start exploring some of the

1270
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,680
alternative explanations for the ufo

1271
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,319
phenomenon if it is in fact non-human

1272
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:33,599
technology

1273
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,200
and we're going to start with talking

1274
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,440
about the one word i haven't said yet

1275
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,079
that you've probably been waiting for

1276
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:41,920
aliens